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	<title>Comments on: What Good Improv Looks Like</title>
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		<title>By: Tommi Brander</title>
		<link>http://www.treasuretables.org/2007/10/what-good-improv-looks-like/comment-page-1#comment-13418</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommi Brander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always impro. But, generally speaking, if I have to refer to a game book when playing, the game is too heavy for me. (Burning Wheel being the big exception because it is so good.) I&#039;m pretty open about this. Improing a lot is likely to make one better at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always impro. But, generally speaking, if I have to refer to a game book when playing, the game is too heavy for me. (Burning Wheel being the big exception because it is so good.) I&#8217;m pretty open about this. Improing a lot is likely to make one better at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.treasuretables.org/2007/10/what-good-improv-looks-like/comment-page-1#comment-13392</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(James Jeffers) &lt;i&gt;Would it have been so bad if he had told you he was winging it?&lt;/i&gt;

Nope. Like I said in the post, telling your players you&#039;re winging a session is just fine. I do think it&#039;s generally less enjoyable, though, and from a GMing standpoint it&#039;s certainly more fun to pull it off without sharing that little tidbit.

If Sam had told us he was going to wing the rest of the session, I&#039;d probably have written a post about how that turned out instead. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(James Jeffers) <i>Would it have been so bad if he had told you he was winging it?</i></p>
<p>Nope. Like I said in the post, telling your players you&#8217;re winging a session is just fine. I do think it&#8217;s generally less enjoyable, though, and from a GMing standpoint it&#8217;s certainly more fun to pull it off without sharing that little tidbit.</p>
<p>If Sam had told us he was going to wing the rest of the session, I&#8217;d probably have written a post about how that turned out instead. <img src='http://www.treasuretables.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: draconius</title>
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		<dc:creator>draconius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Kenyon, your idea intrigues me immensely... i think i may have to try that sometime...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Kenyon, your idea intrigues me immensely&#8230; i think i may have to try that sometime&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to disagree that it&#039;s best to hide the improv.  As a player, I have just as much fun participating in a game where I know that the GM has no set destination in mind.  In fact, I&#039;d rather play under (or be) a GM whose improv skills are a little clumsy than play under a GM who sticks rigidly to a prepared scenario.

The trick is the difference between skillful and clumsy improvisation.  A GM who is able to smoothly move between prepared and improvised encounters, and keep it all straight, is great.  One who stops frequently, stares off into space, or confuses which NPC is which isn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to disagree that it&#8217;s best to hide the improv.  As a player, I have just as much fun participating in a game where I know that the GM has no set destination in mind.  In fact, I&#8217;d rather play under (or be) a GM whose improv skills are a little clumsy than play under a GM who sticks rigidly to a prepared scenario.</p>
<p>The trick is the difference between skillful and clumsy improvisation.  A GM who is able to smoothly move between prepared and improvised encounters, and keep it all straight, is great.  One who stops frequently, stares off into space, or confuses which NPC is which isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with JasonA. I almost always improve my games. I have some NPCs with some Beliefs/goals and a few bangs to keep the players interested when things slow down. I generally start with a planned bang that kicks off the session then wing it from there. 

--Victor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with JasonA. I almost always improve my games. I have some NPCs with some Beliefs/goals and a few bangs to keep the players interested when things slow down. I generally start with a planned bang that kicks off the session then wing it from there. </p>
<p>&#8211;Victor</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Kenyon</title>
		<link>http://www.treasuretables.org/2007/10/what-good-improv-looks-like/comment-page-1#comment-13331</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Kenyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I normally DM, about 80% of a session will be improvised. I know what monsters I want to throw at them, sure, but everything else about a game will be fluid. I don&#039;t use a screen or notes, aside from index cards with monster stats. It always brings great joy to hear of another DM use it sucessfully.

Because my only notes are statblocks, what I&#039;ve found to be most effective while playing is actually not sitting at the table: having the group enclose the playing surface while I walk around them with a clipboard. My players have told me that hearing &quot;The Voice of Fate&quot; coming from up above them really helps them get into the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I normally DM, about 80% of a session will be improvised. I know what monsters I want to throw at them, sure, but everything else about a game will be fluid. I don&#8217;t use a screen or notes, aside from index cards with monster stats. It always brings great joy to hear of another DM use it sucessfully.</p>
<p>Because my only notes are statblocks, what I&#8217;ve found to be most effective while playing is actually not sitting at the table: having the group enclose the playing surface while I walk around them with a clipboard. My players have told me that hearing &#8220;The Voice of Fate&#8221; coming from up above them really helps them get into the game.</p>
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		<title>By: Abulia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abulia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought it was pretty clear we were in improvised territory when a player put forth an idea (move the town) that caused Sam&#039;s eyebrow to raise and a &quot;Hummm&quot; to escape. When we singularly pursued this avenue at the exclusion of the others it seemed logical that we were charting new territory.

However, when it came to the &quot;hows&quot; of executing this plan and our first destination &quot;failed&quot; (rather quickly I might add) and we were forced to use the second, it seemed like we were placed back on track by the DM.

It was well done either way, which speaks more to the improvisation skills of Sam. I wasn&#039;t worried while sitting at the table and we started doing our thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought it was pretty clear we were in improvised territory when a player put forth an idea (move the town) that caused Sam&#8217;s eyebrow to raise and a &#8220;Hummm&#8221; to escape. When we singularly pursued this avenue at the exclusion of the others it seemed logical that we were charting new territory.</p>
<p>However, when it came to the &#8220;hows&#8221; of executing this plan and our first destination &#8220;failed&#8221; (rather quickly I might add) and we were forced to use the second, it seemed like we were placed back on track by the DM.</p>
<p>It was well done either way, which speaks more to the improvisation skills of Sam. I wasn&#8217;t worried while sitting at the table and we started doing our thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanir</title>
		<link>http://www.treasuretables.org/2007/10/what-good-improv-looks-like/comment-page-1#comment-13318</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have a problem with a GM telling me he was winging it &lt;i&gt;afterwards&lt;/i&gt;. Nothing makes you worry that the next three hours are going to suck than doing something and seeing your GM pause and say &quot;uuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh&quot; and bury his head in a book for five minutes.

It&#039;s called a Bluff check, people. USE IT!!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with a GM telling me he was winging it <i>afterwards</i>. Nothing makes you worry that the next three hours are going to suck than doing something and seeing your GM pause and say &#8220;uuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh&#8221; and bury his head in a book for five minutes.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called a Bluff check, people. USE IT!!! <img src='http://www.treasuretables.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Frost</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t often run improv adventures.  My group tends to pick up on hooks and stick with them.  On the few occasions when they veered off on a tangent, I was able to run some fairly well improvised adventures.  Having certain things prepped definitely makes improvising an easier task.  I keep old maps and stat blocks on hand, just in case I need to come up with something quickly.  I also keep NPC and treasure lists in easy access.

When I do improvise, I don&#039;t like to tell my players.  I&#039;ve heard this is the case for others, and I think it would be the same for them.  That is, if the material isn&#039;t prepped ahead of time with their specific characters in mind, it somehow makes it less real for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t often run improv adventures.  My group tends to pick up on hooks and stick with them.  On the few occasions when they veered off on a tangent, I was able to run some fairly well improvised adventures.  Having certain things prepped definitely makes improvising an easier task.  I keep old maps and stat blocks on hand, just in case I need to come up with something quickly.  I also keep NPC and treasure lists in easy access.</p>
<p>When I do improvise, I don&#8217;t like to tell my players.  I&#8217;ve heard this is the case for others, and I think it would be the same for them.  That is, if the material isn&#8217;t prepped ahead of time with their specific characters in mind, it somehow makes it less real for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a GM, the biggest trick I have in the book is to stop the game for a few minutes.

I usually have a good handle on the adventure and how things are supposed to shake out. When the players do something unexpected, I used to roll with it, only to smack my head afterwards as I thought of a better way to have improvised things to get them back on track.

For me, stopping the game means taking a bathroom break or grabbing some coffee or food. Just stepping away from the game for those few minutes is enough to clear my head and make the mental connections I need.

My second weapon is the subplot. My players usually have personal things going on, and when they take the game in a different direction a subplot is a good stalling tactic that can turn improvisation into next week&#039;s prepared adventure.

My third weapon is pre-made stat blocks. I loved d20 Star Wars because of all the NPC stat blocks they gave me. It&#039;s much easier to improvise encounters when you know you can pull stat blocks out of thin air.

My fourth weapon is villain reaction. If the PCs go off in an unplanned direction, they may get noticed. The villain may actively pursue them, leading to the scrapping of the original plan but constructing a new, fun one, especially if the villain wants to take them alive and bring them to his secret base.

I don&#039;t play often, but when I do I don&#039;t mind if the GM is improvising. If I know he&#039;s floundering, I&#039;ll often suggest courses of action that foster character development. Sometimes there&#039;s nothing players like better than to take their PCs out for a night on the town :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a GM, the biggest trick I have in the book is to stop the game for a few minutes.</p>
<p>I usually have a good handle on the adventure and how things are supposed to shake out. When the players do something unexpected, I used to roll with it, only to smack my head afterwards as I thought of a better way to have improvised things to get them back on track.</p>
<p>For me, stopping the game means taking a bathroom break or grabbing some coffee or food. Just stepping away from the game for those few minutes is enough to clear my head and make the mental connections I need.</p>
<p>My second weapon is the subplot. My players usually have personal things going on, and when they take the game in a different direction a subplot is a good stalling tactic that can turn improvisation into next week&#8217;s prepared adventure.</p>
<p>My third weapon is pre-made stat blocks. I loved d20 Star Wars because of all the NPC stat blocks they gave me. It&#8217;s much easier to improvise encounters when you know you can pull stat blocks out of thin air.</p>
<p>My fourth weapon is villain reaction. If the PCs go off in an unplanned direction, they may get noticed. The villain may actively pursue them, leading to the scrapping of the original plan but constructing a new, fun one, especially if the villain wants to take them alive and bring them to his secret base.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t play often, but when I do I don&#8217;t mind if the GM is improvising. If I know he&#8217;s floundering, I&#8217;ll often suggest courses of action that foster character development. Sometimes there&#8217;s nothing players like better than to take their PCs out for a night on the town <img src='http://www.treasuretables.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JasonA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JasonA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell, pretty much all my sessions are largely improv - I may go in with an idea or two, but I almost never plan anything out in advance. It certainly has it&#039;s pros and cons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, pretty much all my sessions are largely improv &#8211; I may go in with an idea or two, but I almost never plan anything out in advance. It certainly has it&#8217;s pros and cons!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  A GM telling you they are winging it causes player anxiety and the feeling that you&#039;ve screwed up somehow.  Unless you operate from straight improv, never tell your players what you had prepped and what you made up on the spot.

I think the main key to good improv is simply knowing your setting very well.  Like all creativity, you need a fertile ground to work with.  The better things fit together in your head, the better your improvised ideas will fit with the overall picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  A GM telling you they are winging it causes player anxiety and the feeling that you&#8217;ve screwed up somehow.  Unless you operate from straight improv, never tell your players what you had prepped and what you made up on the spot.</p>
<p>I think the main key to good improv is simply knowing your setting very well.  Like all creativity, you need a fertile ground to work with.  The better things fit together in your head, the better your improvised ideas will fit with the overall picture.</p>
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